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部分同意 Apr 18, 2008

这点是肯定的:没有奥运,中国一样向前发展

有不同看法就说人家吃醋未免狭隘,法国有些企业吃醋是很可能的。

Mincho Young wrote:
没有奥运,中国一样向前发展

法国吃醋吃过了头。
http://news.sohu.com/20080418/n256380734.shtml
温家宝宣布京沪高铁全线开工。


 
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那要看什么材料 Apr 18, 2008

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我还想看看有没有人抵制翻译外文材料呢。


要是“法广”和“法功”的材料,我绝对会抵制。:D


 
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Poor Jack Cafferty Apr 18, 2008

IMO he was just shooting his mouth off, and unknowingly caused such an international incident.

These days you really have to tip-toe around and watch what you say. I think it's really a sad state of affairs when public figures have to be politically correct all the time.



[Edited at 2008-04-18 17:44]


 
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美国和欧洲总是会时不时的有人喊抵制中国货, Apr 18, 2008

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我还想看看有没有人抵制翻译外文材料呢。

当年法国反伊拉克战争,也被美国人抵制法国货,法国这边可没抵制美国货。

其实国际贸易应该是互惠互利,在平等互利基础上才能持久。

我个人反对只以经济利益为主的全球化,致使法国失去自己的基础工业农业,大量失业,造成经济不景气,可能逐渐失去独立自主能力。但是这些只能怪法国政府目光短浅,不进行市场与规划的统筹兼顾,怪不到人家出口国。

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isahuang wrote:

......but now it seems it is behind and business is business.

生意人到底比政客们聪明得多。中国这么大市场,谁也不愿丢。可口可乐公司赶紧把德国不莱梅火车站的广告撤了。家乐福的大股东也赶紧发表声明。家乐福是小买卖,飞机可是大买卖。中国并不是非买谁家的飞机不可。若惹急了,早晚谁家的都不买。

可口可乐推出北京2008年北京奥运组合标志
http://sports.tom.com/2007-01-11/0BMJ/08777026.html


[Edited at 2008-04-18 16:26]


这些人也就是喊喊嘴上图个痛快,他们也知道抵制行不通。国内民众现在说的抵制法国货,也是一样的。在巴黎火炬传递中发生的混乱,你想让中国人不卑不亢?不可能。而且在国内提出抵制的,最活跃的要属80后的一代。现在的年轻人可不是5、6十年代时候的人了,有很强的优越感,而且也很张扬。这是进步。

欧洲人对中国很了解吗?看看连接里的报道吧,出来有一个多星期了,本来不想往论坛上贴的。

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/89261466-0a79-11dd-b5b1-0000779fd2ac.html

下面是其中一段:
“The story of the last five years has been about economic opportunities. The story of the last six months has been about China as a threat in Darfur and in Tibet.” The little that Europeans knew about China came from news coverage, recently unfavourable, whereas they were constantly consuming US popular culture, Mr Leonard explained.

What I am thinking is the Europeans opinion towards China has changed in the last month, but is there any fundamental change that merit the shift in Europeans opinion towards China? Absolutely not. This shows you how easily public opinion can be swayed by media coverage.


 
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法国国际广播中文台 Apr 18, 2008

法国国际广播中文台的记者和主持人都是华人,他们都是自己直接用中文写稿编辑,用不着别人翻译。

我可没为了表示爱国就一味反对CNN。

Yueyin Sun wrote:

chance wrote:

我还想看看有没有人抵制翻译外文材料呢。


要是“法广”和“法功”的材料,我绝对会抵制。:D


 
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半斤八两 Apr 18, 2008

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当年法国反伊拉克战争,也被美国人抵制法国货,法国这边可没抵制美国货。

法国反对打伊拉克,那是因为触犯了法国的即得经济利益。说起来又牵涉政治,所以点到为止。


 
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Jack Cafferty Apr 18, 2008

I remember him co-anchoring with Sue Simmons for New York's local TV station WNBC in the '80s. He seemed to be such a harmless and laid-back, decent kind of fellow.

 
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中国人不习惯这样的评论, Apr 18, 2008

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IMO he was just shooting his mouth off, and unknowingly caused an international incident.



在美国待了这些年,我都不觉得刺耳了。不过他作为一个著名电视台的评论员,说话时真的应该谨慎。说中国或是垃圾倒也罢了,可后面那句有点过头了。记得今年superbowl时候的一个广告吗?用了两只cartoon熊猫,配音是带有中国口音的英文,就这还引起了好多人的抗议呢。


 
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难道 Apr 18, 2008

你的意思是 Jack Cafferty 说得不错,不该反?
chance wrote:

我可没为了表示爱国就一味反对CNN。


 
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Steve, Apr 18, 2008

wherestip wrote:

I remember him co-anchoring with Sue Simmons for New York's local TV station WNBC in the '80s. He seemed to be such a harmless and laid-back, decent kind of fellow.



I think in this country you can become famous quickly by saying or doing absurd things.


 
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国外对中国的报导文章每天都很多 Apr 18, 2008

不能因为其中有一部分不属实就否定全部。法国大报记者往往驻华10-20年,看得出他们对中国的情况相当了解。

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欧洲人对中国很了解吗?看看连接里的报道吧,出来有一个多星期了,本来不想往论坛上贴的。

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/89261466-0a79-11dd-b5b1-0000779fd2ac.html


 
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那是美国人安慰自己的理由 Apr 18, 2008

那是美国人安慰自己的理由,反对伊拉克战争也让法国受到不少经济损失,还不是照样反对。美国大众五年前支持伊拉克战争时有理由,五年后许多美国人反对这场战争还不是也有理由,不能总是自欺欺人,要看事实和结果。
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chance wrote:

当年法国反伊拉克战争,也被美国人抵制法国货,法国这边可没抵制美国货。

法国反对打伊拉克,那是因为触犯了法国的即得经济利益。说起来又牵涉政治,所以点到为止。


[Edited at 2008-04-18 17:03]


 
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有些国家即便办奥运,也不一定发展 Apr 18, 2008

chance wrote:
这点是肯定的:没有奥运,中国一样向前发展
有不同看法就说人家吃醋未免狭隘,法国有些企业吃醋是很可能的。
Mincho Young wrote:
没有奥运,中国一样向前发展
法国吃醋吃过了头。
http://news.sohu.com/20080418/n256380734.shtml
温家宝宣布京沪高铁全线开工。

法媒这一段时间就表现得淋漓尽致,至少从近段时间的报道来看,这种心态是很明显的。歇斯底里的狂喜之后,总会是深深的失落。
至少法国运动员还要来参加奥运会,不知这一次法国的奖牌数会不会超过中国?要是能超过就好了,省得有些人辛苦造谣。


 
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也不知是谁在自欺欺人 Apr 18, 2008

前面说了,点到为止。
chance wrote:

那是美国人安慰自己的理由,反对伊拉克战争也让法国受到不少经济损失,还不是照样反对。美国大众五年前支持伊拉克战争时有理由,五年后许多美国人反对这场战争还不是也有理由,不能总是自欺欺人,要看事实和结果。
Yueyin Sun wrote:

chance wrote:

当年法国反伊拉克战争,也被美国人抵制法国货,法国这边可没抵制美国货。

法国反对打伊拉克,那是因为触犯了法国的即得经济利益。说起来又牵涉政治,所以点到为止。


[Edited at 2008-04-18 17:03]


 
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自知之明 Apr 18, 2008

Mincho Young wrote:

至少法国运动员还要来参加奥运会

奥运会是全世界运动员的盛会,是老百姓的盛会,既不是政治会议,也不是经济会议。某些国家的领导人就是没有一点儿起码的自知之明,自以为他们在世界上是多么地重要,似乎没有他们出席,奥运会就开不成了。所以,一说话就是这种口气:我参加不参加北京奥运会开幕式将取决于…。实际上,他们参加不参加北京奥运会开幕式,与一般老百姓的主要区别就在于他们不必自己买票,而一般老百姓得自己买票。:D


 
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