May 27, 2022 11:09
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English term

any bona fide contra accounts

English to Polish Law/Patents Law: Contract(s) umowy
Without prejudice to X other rights and remedies, X may deduct from any payments due to Supplier the amount of any bona fide contra accounts or other claims which X may have against the Supplier.

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mike23 May 31, 2022:
Wydaje mi się, że chodzi o zapisy księgowe na odpowiednich kontach przeciwstawnych.
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“The contractor also reserves the right to deduct from any payments certified as due to the sub-contractor and/or otherwise to recover the amount of any bona fide contra accounts and/or other claims [*704] which he, the contractor, may have against the sub-contractor in connection with this or any other contract.”

...A “certified” payment is clearly a liquidated sum. To have a process of deduction from such a sum there must clearly be some other stated sum. There could, for example, be some other liquidated sum. There could be some other sum which could be regarded as a contra account. But there would have to be some sum. There could not be a deduction of something that lacked any kind of specification. But need the sum to be deducted be a liquidated sum or an ascertained sum in the sense of an agreed sum or of a sum assessed by a court? The wording of the provision does not so indicate. There may be a deduction of the amount of any bona fide claim which the contractor may have against the sub-contractor.
http://www.uniset.ca/other/css/1974AC689.html
Jarosław Olszewski May 30, 2022:
rachunki przeciwstawne
geopiet May 28, 2022:
@ Anna Lata temu było identyczne pytanie, ale nie otrzymało żadnych odpowiedzi - https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english-to-polish/law-contracts/5...

Zapytaj może Joannę - https://www.proz.com/translator/1677353 - czy pamięta jak z tego wybrnęła ...

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jakiekkolwiek faktyczne/autentyczne konta/rachunki przeciwstawne

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Note added at 1 hr (2022-05-27 12:35:11 GMT)
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A contra account is used in a general ledger to reduce the value of a related account when the two are netted together. A contra account's natural balance is the opposite of the associated account. If a debit is the natural balance recorded in the related account, the contra account records a credit. - https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/contraaccount.asp
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agree Jarosław Olszewski : te ostatnie
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English term (edited): any bona fide contra accounts or other claims

wszelkie rachunki przeciwstawne lub inne roszczenia wysunięte w dobrej wierze

Moim zdaniem nie można pominąć wyrażenia "bona fide" - odnosi się ono i do "accounts", i do "claims". Co prawda autorytety prawnicze uważają, że dokładanie tego "bona fide" jest zbędne, bo jest oczywiste że wszelkie roszczenia powinny być potrącane tylko wtedy gdy są to roszczenia w dobrej wierze (czyli wysuwający roszczenie jest przekonany - i ma ku temu podstawy - że jest ono zasadne), ale ciągle się to pojawia w umowach.
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