Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
sluitend(e kleuren)
English translation:
aligned (colours)
Added to glossary by
AllisonK (X)
Aug 11, 2003 07:42
20 yrs ago
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Dutch term
sluitende
Dutch to English
Marketing
Printing & Publishing
printing industry
from the same sentence as the last question I posted...:Loupe-zuivere, messcherp gestoken letters, feilloos ***sluitende*** kleuren en precisie-kalibratie zijn maatgevend voor een etiket dat het predikaat allerhoogste kwaliteit mag dragen.
I don't know if they mean 'balanced' here or that there's a clear division between the colours used......the heat is baking my brain!
TIA.
I don't know if they mean 'balanced' here or that there's a clear division between the colours used......the heat is baking my brain!
TIA.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | aligned |
Alexander Schleber (X)
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| 4 +2 | (precisely) matched (colours) |
Marijke Singer
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| 4 +1 | sharply defined |
Dave Greatrix
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| 4 +1 | registering |
vixen
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Proposed translations
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6 mins
Selected
aligned
would be my suggestion.
Each colour in a printing process is on a different layer of film, which must be aligned properly with reference marks, so that they overlap evers so slightly and that no white line appears between the colours, when they have been printed.
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Note added at 2003-08-12 08:37:43 (GMT)
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Why would the source text use \"feilloos\" for matching of colours. In printing practice a \"precise alignment\" can never be achieved, because the paper stretches with humidity and temperature. So all printing of colours is done with overlays, where the dots of colout merge (so that no line effect is created - unless required) and no white lines can ever appear between the colours.
20 years in publishing and printing.
Furthermore, coulours always merge (unless pure colours are used - i.e. no dots of colour). All colours other than 100% are composed from the basic printing colours.
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Note added at 2003-08-12 08:40:25 (GMT)
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And \"calibratie\" (registration) also indicates that this is what its all about, namely the alignment, not a matching. Matching would be bbetween different colour surfaces.
Each colour in a printing process is on a different layer of film, which must be aligned properly with reference marks, so that they overlap evers so slightly and that no white line appears between the colours, when they have been printed.
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Note added at 2003-08-12 08:37:43 (GMT)
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Why would the source text use \"feilloos\" for matching of colours. In printing practice a \"precise alignment\" can never be achieved, because the paper stretches with humidity and temperature. So all printing of colours is done with overlays, where the dots of colout merge (so that no line effect is created - unless required) and no white lines can ever appear between the colours.
20 years in publishing and printing.
Furthermore, coulours always merge (unless pure colours are used - i.e. no dots of colour). All colours other than 100% are composed from the basic printing colours.
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Note added at 2003-08-12 08:40:25 (GMT)
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And \"calibratie\" (registration) also indicates that this is what its all about, namely the alignment, not a matching. Matching would be bbetween different colour surfaces.
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks Alexander, sorry for the delay. After a mini-computer crash (beware of the Microsoft patches everyone!) and some consultation with the client, this appears to be the best answer.
Thanks all!"
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4 mins
Dave Greatrix
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
Dutch to English Technical Translator
Native in: English
Works in: Dutch to English, Flemish to English
sharply defined
This means that the colours do not merge. So maybe this would do.
Prisms
Prisms shows white light (treated for the sake of simplicity as a mixture of
seven sharply-defined colours) refracted by a ring of rotating prisms. ...
www.netspace.net.au/~gregegan/APPLETS/14/14.html - 5k - Cached - Similar pages
The Day After Christmas
... Prisms show white light (treated for the sake of simplicity as a mixture of
seven sharply-defined colours) refracted by a ring of rotating prisms. ...
www.crystalinks.com/dayafterxmas.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
artnet.com: Resource Library: Ràfols-Casamada, Albert
... in 1957, initially concentrating exclusively on the interaction of the background
with geometrically arranged shapes in sharply defined colours and faintly ...
www.artnet.com/library/07/0705/T070570.asp
Prisms
Prisms shows white light (treated for the sake of simplicity as a mixture of
seven sharply-defined colours) refracted by a ring of rotating prisms. ...
www.netspace.net.au/~gregegan/APPLETS/14/14.html - 5k - Cached - Similar pages
The Day After Christmas
... Prisms show white light (treated for the sake of simplicity as a mixture of
seven sharply-defined colours) refracted by a ring of rotating prisms. ...
www.crystalinks.com/dayafterxmas.html - 27k - Cached - Similar pages
artnet.com: Resource Library: Ràfols-Casamada, Albert
... in 1957, initially concentrating exclusively on the interaction of the background
with geometrically arranged shapes in sharply defined colours and faintly ...
www.artnet.com/library/07/0705/T070570.asp
Peer comment(s):
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Alexander Schleber (X)
: "sluitend" in the sense of closing, touching.
6 mins
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Sharply defined would mean perfectly aligned
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Kate Hudson (X)
: so to disagree here with you Alexander but I think David has the right idea, meaning there is no runover in the colour boundaries i.e. leakage of colour
31 mins
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| agree |
moya
1 hr
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28 mins
Marijke Singer
Spain
Spain
Native in English
Works in field
Spain
Technical translator with Math degree
Native in: English 
, Spanish
Works in: Dutch to English, Spanish to English, English to Spanish, and 3 more.
(precisely) matched (colours)
Just to make you even more unsure!
They could just mean that the colours are accurately matched!
See website: http://www.morphycontainers.com/faq.html
"6. How much more expensive are printed cartons?
The cost depends on the amount of printing and the intricacy of the printing. One colour business logos on 2 sides of the carton would cost 2%-3% more; two colour logos with special matched colours and tight registration would cost 5%-10% more and three and four colours would sell for 15%-50% more depending on the amount of detail. "
They could just mean that the colours are accurately matched!
See website: http://www.morphycontainers.com/faq.html
"6. How much more expensive are printed cartons?
The cost depends on the amount of printing and the intricacy of the printing. One colour business logos on 2 sides of the carton would cost 2%-3% more; two colour logos with special matched colours and tight registration would cost 5%-10% more and three and four colours would sell for 15%-50% more depending on the amount of detail. "
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
jarry (X)
: Yes, this would also be my interpretation of "sluitend" in this context
1 hr
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Thank you!
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| agree |
Meturgan
: Seems to me too
4 hrs
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Thank you!
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1 day 52 mins
registering
While looking for a reference to back up Alexander's suggestion, I hit upon the following definitions:
Register: fitting of two or more printing images in exact alignment with each other.
Register Marks: cross-hair lines or marks on film, plates, and paper that guide the pressmen in registering colours. Not to be confused with crop marks.
http://www.thequickprinter.com/glossary.html
So, although alignment appears to be a correct description of the process, the correct printer's term seems to be 'registering'.
"Dit kleurenstel sluit niet: de films zijn niet exact even groot gemaakt. Het effect is hetzelfde als bij een stel dat niet sluitend is gedrukt, maar in dit geval moet het stel worden overgemaakt"
Comment next to an illustration in 'Drukwerkproduktie en -begeleiding', published by Gaade, 1987.
Register: fitting of two or more printing images in exact alignment with each other.
Register Marks: cross-hair lines or marks on film, plates, and paper that guide the pressmen in registering colours. Not to be confused with crop marks.
http://www.thequickprinter.com/glossary.html
So, although alignment appears to be a correct description of the process, the correct printer's term seems to be 'registering'.
"Dit kleurenstel sluit niet: de films zijn niet exact even groot gemaakt. Het effect is hetzelfde als bij een stel dat niet sluitend is gedrukt, maar in dit geval moet het stel worden overgemaakt"
Comment next to an illustration in 'Drukwerkproduktie en -begeleiding', published by Gaade, 1987.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Alexander Schleber (X)
: Thanks for the confirming evidence.
2 days 12 hrs
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