Glossary entry

español term or phrase:

marcos isobáricos

inglés translation:

isobar patterns

Added to glossary by Charles Davis
Nov 29, 2014 17:00
9 yrs ago
español term

marcos isobáricos

español al inglés Ciencias Meteorología A technical paper on Imag
Este efecto está relacionado con marcos isobáricos que favorecen la presencia de cuerpos de aire continentales. Éstos inhiben o reducen, en el mejor de los casos, la influencia Atlántica.
Change log

Nov 29, 2014 17:30: Taña Dalglish changed "Language pair" from "inglés" to "español al inglés"

Dec 13, 2014 04:03: Charles Davis Created KOG entry

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Discussion

Charles Davis Nov 30, 2014:
@Peter "Isobar patterns" are indeed mentioned in meteorological texts, quite commonly in fact, and of course they exist: isobars do form patterns. I've quoted a couple of examples in my answer; here's another:
"Figure 2 shows the classic “U” shaped isobar pattern over the Mid-Atlantic and a 1030+ mb parent high over New England and southern Canada."
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/mhx/EventReviews/20041226/20041226.p...

The pattern is simply the configuration or arrangement of a series of isobars relative to each other, and it is very informative, much more so than the shape of a single isobar. If, for example, the isobars are closely spaced (that is, the pressure gradient is steep) and tightly curved, conclusions can be drawn. Obviously this means at a given moment; air is moving all the time so isobars are changing position all the time.

As I said, "marco isobárico" is an expression that doesn't seem to occur on the Internet. We have to guess what they might mean by it. Given how the word "marco" (frame, framework, context, contextual situation) is used in Spanish, I think they're probably referring to the pattern or configuration of a series of isobars rather than to a single isobar.
Peter Simon Nov 30, 2014:
@Whoever asked me what I meant in my remark to Ch. To save my face,I have to answer your Q. 1st, I don't speak Spanish,but I understood the point in Q when it came up in the E to E section and I meant to help.2nd, Charles himself pointed out that he hasn't found any mention of the phrase asked. No wonder, I haven't ever heard of such a think in my meteorological studies either.My answer referred to what comes up in meteorological texts.No 'isobar patterns'.Iso means 'the same', isobar means points of the same pressure, bar being the measure for pressure.Thus the only pattern isobars can have is the curve, i.e. curving lines.Whatever the Sp. text has, isobars can make no other pattern. Isobaric curves may be seen as parts of meteorological systems,so we can speak about a pattern of isobaric lines.Curves are the technical name for the line pattern of the lines isobars can be shown on a map.That's a kind of pattern, but patterns are usually systems of features based on some mathematical, geometrical, or artistic order, not found in connection with isobars,which are highly disorganized and changeable with time. Whole meteorological systems,like cyclones have certain regularities, but they aren't organized and aren't called patterns.

Proposed translations

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2 horas
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isobar patterns

Literally "isobar frames", of course, but I can only find a handful of instances of this expression and all related to nuclear physics, not climate. Nor, for that matter, can I find any examples of "marco(s) isobárico(s)" apart from this question. I think they're probably referring to isobar patterns, a similar concept, which fits the context, and a standard collocation.

"The wind changes from day to day because the isobar patterns change."
http://books.google.es/books?id=Qnliro0shMMC&pg=PA16&lpg=PA1...

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-11-29 19:03:36 GMT)
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"In forecasting, pressure is used to analyze the isobar patterns, or lines of equal pressure. From the isobar patterns, analysts can determine wind speeds, centers of high and low pressure, and other critical information."
http://meteorologytraining.tpub.com/14269/css/14269_50.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Karen Dinicola
1 hora
Thanks, kpdinicola :)
agree Rachel Fell
1 hora
Thanks, Rachel :)
neutral Peter Simon : your source mentions this among good stuff, but the proper name for this is usually isobaric lines, not patterns - the pattern of points with the same pressure is the curve, or line on a map
19 horas
The proper name for what? Isobaric lines/curves are líneas/curvas isobáricas or simply isobaras/isóbaras. "Marco isobárico" implies a pattern or distribution of isobars, which can be e.g. more or less closely spaced, straighter or more curved, etc.
agree Phong Le
4 días
Thanks, Phong Le :)
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13 minutos

isobaric curve, isobar

Why in the E to E section? You haven't written one word in English ... marcos isobáricos is no English. Fortunately, I can guess quite well that you need these words, the first is a nearer translation, but the second is also used for the same thing, which are lines on a map linking points of the same pressure values in reality measured and given in "millibar", "bar" being the measure of pressure in meteorology. The lines are usually drawn at a distance of 5 millibars after some adjustments according to hight.
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