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German term

W

German to English Medical Medical (general) Lab tests
I am translating a very long lab report. The abbreviation (W) appears next to a few of the readings. The (W) could actually be in German or English. This is what it looks like in my report:

Test Result
MONO# 0.58 (W)
RDW-SD 44.5
RDW-CV 13.6
PDW 20.7 (W)
MPV 13.4 (W)

Any ideas as to what the W stands for? Thank you in advance for any help offered!
Proposed translations (English)
1 -1 width
References
W=durch Wiederholungsmessung

Discussion

Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 15:
What a pity that we did not find out what W meant in this report, even by the lab itself. I think that Christopher's / Johana's suggestions for Wiederholung are absolutely valid and possible - I just don't know if this was the answer for my report, in particular, since the creators themselves (the lab) were unable to answer what would've seemingly been an easy answer. Still, I think that there is a lot of information and value in this discussion thread, and I want to thank everyone for your input. Arne, special thanks to you for making all those phone calls over several days - despite not obtaining an answer, we did gain additional knowledge and possible options for future translations.
Arne Krueger Mar 15:
Acknowledged. But there is an explanation for it in Johannas' specific report. It dates 2011, if I am not mistaken. We have 2024 now and Jessica's report was from 2023. If it is device-specific, it can be manufacturer-dependant. W could also be Warning as the readings with a W (not all, I admit, but maybe in combination) are all elevated (this is debatable as well, depending on the patient - male, female, kid, elderly). With all the information I have, it is too vague for me to make a certain determination. I would just add a comment in the translation stressing that this term is not defined in the original report.
Steffen Walter Mar 15:
@ Arne Johanna has apparently hit the mark - see her reference entry. "Wiederholungsmessung" -> repeat measurement/reading.
Arne Krueger Mar 15:
We have come far for this. Unfortunately, the lab of this practice told me they cannot provide me any information based on pure data (they need personal information to look into their records). Although I asked them if this entry is device-specific, I did not get any answer. I have now called several other labs, even in different cities in Germany, and they all tell me the same: 1. They have to see the report in full, 2. There are restrictions regarding privacy, 3. I should query at the place of origin (original lab), and 4. It could be a device-specific prompt. In summary, it all depends on the lab that created it. And since we have no apparent personal information or cannot show any valid interest (privacy concerns) in it, it remains unanswered. But we can of course continue with our assumptions... Definitely not a W (win) for me. :)
Arne Krueger Mar 14:
Ahaha, true. I just remind you: "The five abbreviations you've mentioned are English, so the W probably is too." We will see tomorrow...
philgoddard Mar 14:
Here's my 'straight from the horse's mouth' story A couple of weeks ago, we were arguing over an English-English question about a word in a newspaper article. Two people had already posted answers, but I thought they were wrong.

By an amazing coincidence, the writer of the article turned out to be my brother-in-law's immediate boss. I asked the writer what the word meant, he told me, and I posted it as an answer - I would have used a confidence level of 6 if I could.

The asker still chose one of the wrong answers.
Arne Krueger Mar 14:
Absolutely, sure. I mean, crazy enough that we look for the meaning of a single letter! And then so much information around it... Till then.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 14:
Thank you very much Arne, for making these inquiries and for all of the additional information. Please let us know if you hear back from the lab itself. It would be good to get extra confirmation from them that W indeed stands for "Linksverschiebung". I appreciate your help!
Arne Krueger Mar 14:
I guess W is just a letter that was allocated to the machine randomly for data output... You can see in attached manual that they use W there as well (search for Linksverschiebung or Rechtsverschiebung in the annex). But this is just my guess for now. Until proven wrong AGAIN. ^^
https://www.keul.de/media/pdf/mindray/BC-5500_benutzerhandbu...
Arne Krueger Mar 14:
Right, got a response. W is apparently about a "shift" as you can see here:
https://www.blutwert.net/leukozyten/linksverschiebung.php
However, they advised me to contact their lab which is not in-house. I have done that as well and waiting for further clarification.
uyuni Mar 14:
@Andres Good morning!
As you pointed out correctly in your proposal 'RDW/PDW' already mean 'red cell/platelet distribution *width*'. But why would it need a second 'W' for 'width' in the right column of the report then?
We have had this before:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/medical-cardiol...
Arne Krueger Mar 14:
Lirka, you didn't get it. I was just joking... In any event, I called them and they told me they will revert shortly. Hopefully with some useful information.
Lirka Mar 13:
@Arne: "Cheap copy/paste by Lirka" Are you out of your mind?? Look at the damn time, ffs!!
Shame on you to accuse me of copying you. You? Never.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
That is very generous of you! I think I have everything else covered, but I'll take another look at my report and email you, in case I was unsure of anything else.
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
One FINAL thing: If you have anything else you can't decode in this report, send it to my email with a note.
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
I think Phil may think they are not responsible for the lab test. But you can browse their website at https://www.onkologie-dresden.net/BAG_Hamatologie_und_Onkolo...
You can see that they do the tests themselves. Till tomorrow then. I'm gone.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Haha Phil, I am 100% counting on them knowing, because I need to know.
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
If they have compiled the report, they certainly know it... And even if not, they are the ones that passed it. So they should know it. Otherwise no specialists. But in any case: (I) we will find it out tomorrow. That's all I can do.
philgoddard Mar 13:
What's the betting they don't know what W means?
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
Yes, will do that first thing tomorrow morning and let everybody know here. Good team work. :)
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Hey Arne, what are the chances! If (and only if) you feel like calling them, please let me know. My translation is due tomorrow at 9AM EST, but even if you get a later reply, it would still be good for everyone to know. Thanks so much! :-)
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
This is unbelievable... You know what? That practice is 3.5km away from me... Noooooo way. I can call them tomorrow and ask... But of course, let me know if you are okay with it. I will not state or publish any information, just ask them about what they mean by using it.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
I'm trying Phil's suggestion. Does the link below work?

https://snipboard.io/KSyP1w.jpg
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Hi Arne, I just e-mailed you the images. :-)
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
Nope, didn't receive anything. Will try and contact you and you can reply.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Phil, I'm not sure. Westergren is an ESR test. My (W) appears next to several values that are not ESR.

Arne and Lirka, I sent you private messages via ProZ. Did you receive them?
philgoddard Mar 13:
Could this be it? http://www.proz.com/kudoz/german-to-english/medical/541771-n...
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
You can, sure.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Hi Phil, I use something similar to crop images. My problem is that I have nowhere to paste it onto, on this ProZ page. I tried pasting my image to this text field, but it wouldn't paste.
If anyone would accept a copy of the image sent to their e-mail address, please let me know. :-)
philgoddard Mar 13:
You could try this https://snipboard.io/
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
My file is a PDF - I took a screenshot of the page and tried pasting it here, but it didn't work. Is there a different way?
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
Cheap copy/paste by Lirka... ^^ No, good that we seem to have a match here. Let's see if this works in Jessica's file.
Lirka Mar 13:
"Whole blood", perhaps, that's why I asked to see the entire table.
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
Maybe Whole Blood?? Does that make any sense? I would have thought of weiblich for female and männlich for male first. But since there is no M and Phil thinks it should be English...
philgoddard Mar 13:
The five abbreviations you've mentioned are English, so the W probably is too.
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Hi Lirka, I would love to post a screenshot - not sure how to do that?
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Hi Christopher, I was thinking of Wiederholung, but not sure if it's correct. I have hundreds of values that were taken on 2 separate dates. But only about 10 of them have a (W) next to them. Not sure if it would apply?
Lirka Mar 13:
Could you post a screenshot of the entire lab results table?
Jessica Klingberg (asker) Mar 13:
Hi Arne, there are no Ms, just a couple of values followed by (!).
Dr. Christopher Kronen Mar 13:
W for Wiederholung, as in a previously determined value?
Arne Krueger Mar 13:
Is there M as well somewhere?

Proposed translations

-1
7 hrs

width

(RDW-CV) Red blood cell distribution width, coefficient variation (%), (RDW-SD) Red blood cell distribution width, standard deviation (fL)

Platelet distribution width (PDW) is a measurement of platelet anisocytosis calculated from the distribution of individual platelet volumes. Thrombocrit (or ...

Complete blood count by center.

Figshare
https://figshare.com › articles › dataset › Complete_blo...
(RDW-CV) Red blood cell distribution width, coefficient variation (%), (RDW-SD) Red blood cell distribution width, standard deviation (fL), (PLT) Platelet ...

Red Blood Cell Distribution Width (RDW): Definition and ...

LabCE
https://www.labce.com › spg579...
The RDW-CV is a calculation based on both the width of the distribution curve and the mean cell size. It is calculated by dividing the standard deviation of the ...

Platelet Distribution Width - an overview
ScienceDirect.com
https://www.sciencedirect.com › p...
Platelet distribution width (PDW) is a measurement of platelet anisocytosis calculated from the distribution of individual platelet volumes. Thrombocrit (or ...
Peer comment(s):
neutral uyuni : Please see discussion entry
4 hrs
disagree Lauren Marney-Mears : Doesn't work for mean platelet volume
4 hrs
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Reference comments

1 day 1 hr
Reference:

W=durch Wiederholungsmessung

S. 30 ganz untern hier:
https://www.principality-of-sealand.ch/pdf/2012_04_doku_denm...
Legende: Fett=neuer Wert. +/-=pathol. Wert, H=hämolytisch. L=lipämisch, Ger.=geronnen, n.n.=nicht nachweisbar, V=verunglückt, l=ikterisch
k.A.=Angabe fehlt, k.M.=kein Material eingegangen, z.w.M.=zu wenig Material, f.M.=falsches Material, W=durch Wiederholungsmessung


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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2024-03-14 21:09:41 GMT)
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... and Christopher mentioned it early on in the D-box:-)
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree Steffen Walter : Touché! Strange source, though, with a lot of 'Reichsbürger' vibes. / Ja, hatte ich gesehen ;-)
13 hrs
: -) Der Laborbericht selbst stammt allerdings aus dem HELIOS Klinikum Berlin
agree uyuni
13 hrs
danke:-)
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