Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Dutch term or phrase:
de kiem en angel voor verandering
English translation:
the origin and impetus for change
Added to glossary by
sindy cremer
Jan 28, 2010 14:53
14 yrs ago
Dutch term
de kiem en angel voor verandering
Dutch to English
Other
Idioms / Maxims / Sayings
[onderzoekers] menen dat dit (i.e. fulfilment) de kiem en angel is voor verandering.
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Jan 31, 2010 23:13: sindy cremer Created KOG entry
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sindy cremer
Native in Dutch
You have my word on it
Native in: Dutch 
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch, Flemish to Dutch
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the origin and impetus for change
kiem -> origin
angel -> stimulus -> impetus
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or "cause and impetus"
or "basis and impetus"
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Or maybe simply "the beginning and the end"?
With no context to go on....
angel -> stimulus -> impetus
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or "cause and impetus"
or "basis and impetus"
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Note added at 1 day3 hrs (2010-01-29 18:12:16 GMT)
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Or maybe simply "the beginning and the end"?
With no context to go on....
Peer comment(s):
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Tina Vonhof (X)
: I was thinking along the same lines: seed and stimulus (because of the alliteration). I don't think 'angel' has a negative meaning here as suggested above.
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Thanks, Tina.
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Barend van Zadelhoff
: Hallo, Sindy: Gefeliciteerd! Knap van je dat je dat zag. Ik zie het nu pas. "Angel" wordt hier gebruikt in de betekenis van een instrument om iemand voort te drijven. Ik hoop dat je van me wilt aannemen dat ik het echt niet zag, ik ben trots op je. :)
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Comment: "Thanks Sindy!"
9 mins
both an opportunity and a threat for change
to use a little swot analysis...
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Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Netherlands
Native in Dutch
Netherlands
TR is the most intimate act of reading.
Native in: Dutch
Works in: English to Dutch, Dutch to English, Dutch
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the seed and sting in change
Informatie en feiten vertellen wat er aan de hand is, maar alleen het patroon van oorzaken en effecten helpt u te begrijpen waarom de dingen zijn zoals ze zijn. En dat geeft zicht op de angel of de kiem van het vraagstuk.
De angel refereert aan welke patronen ervoor zorgen dat verbeteren zo moeilijk is. De kiem duidt op een mogelijk aangrijpingspunt voor verbetering
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of
the seed and sting in the possibility of change, if you like
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Longman
seed - something that makes a new situation start to grow and develop
seeds of change/victory
The seeds of change in Eastern Europe were beginning to emerge.
sting - the upsetting or bad effect of a situation
take the sting out of something
De angel refereert aan welke patronen ervoor zorgen dat verbeteren zo moeilijk is. De kiem duidt op een mogelijk aangrijpingspunt voor verbetering
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of
the seed and sting in the possibility of change, if you like
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Note added at 57 mins (2010-01-28 15:51:34 GMT)
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Longman
seed - something that makes a new situation start to grow and develop
seeds of change/victory
The seeds of change in Eastern Europe were beginning to emerge.
sting - the upsetting or bad effect of a situation
take the sting out of something
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