Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Italian term or phrase:
fuori di se stessi
English translation:
an independent community
Added to glossary by
Lara Barnett
Apr 24, 2018 11:02
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Italian term
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fuori di se stessi
Italian to English
Social Sciences
General / Conversation / Greetings / Letters
Interview with new religions scholar
This is from a transcription full of extra words and no punctuation.
"....Quindi i credenti della Chiesa di Dio Onnipotente non considerano la loro comunità una comunità fuori di se stessi, Ma si sentono parte al cento per cento,."
The scholar has just described a the "beautiful" ending of a film, showing how a young girl who had lived a very distressing childhood had found faith when some aunts intervened in her broken home and introduced her and her mother to the church/book of faith.
"....Quindi i credenti della Chiesa di Dio Onnipotente non considerano la loro comunità una comunità fuori di se stessi, Ma si sentono parte al cento per cento,."
The scholar has just described a the "beautiful" ending of a film, showing how a young girl who had lived a very distressing childhood had found faith when some aunts intervened in her broken home and introduced her and her mother to the church/book of faith.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 | a separate community |
Josephine Cassar
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| 3 | an external aspect |
Debora Blake
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| 3 | a foreign body |
Stefano Lazzaro
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Change log
Apr 24, 2018 11:21: Lara Barnett changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Social Sciences"
Apr 24, 2018 14:19: Lara Barnett changed "Field" from "Social Sciences" to "Art/Literary"
Apr 24, 2018 18:07: Lara Barnett changed "Field" from "Art/Literary" to "Social Sciences"
Proposed translations
1 hr
Josephine Cassar
Malta
Malta
Native in English
Works in field
Malta
12 yrs. experience translating EU stuff
Native in: English (Variants: UK, British) 
, Maltese
Works in: English to Maltese, Italian to Maltese, French to Maltese, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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63
Selected
a separate community
The believers do not think they are a separate community but part and parcel of the community even if not physically but because of their belief in God. It is God that unites them not the physical building. They are part of it 100%
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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-04-24 15:03:50 GMT)
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Separate has a noun-community. It is part and parcel of that community because of their belief in God. Like isolated. They are not physically part of the community but because of both sides' belief in God, they are part of the same community
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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-04-24 15:40:13 GMT)
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Separate as different from/isolated if you wish but not physically isolated-not isolated because of the same belief
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Note added at 8 hrs (2018-04-24 19:27:44 GMT)
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a separate (different) community not a separated community; a separate group
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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-04-24 15:03:50 GMT)
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Separate has a noun-community. It is part and parcel of that community because of their belief in God. Like isolated. They are not physically part of the community but because of both sides' belief in God, they are part of the same community
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Note added at 4 hrs (2018-04-24 15:40:13 GMT)
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Separate as different from/isolated if you wish but not physically isolated-not isolated because of the same belief
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Note added at 8 hrs (2018-04-24 19:27:44 GMT)
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a separate (different) community not a separated community; a separate group
Note from asker:
| What do you mean separate? separate from what? |
| Do you mean isolated? (separate needs a noun) |
| Yes but separate from what? You cannot say separate without saying (or implying previously) what they are separate from. Do you mean isolated? |
| Separate + noun = I meant separated from what noun? We cannot just say "a separated community" without stating what they have been separated from. |
| Hi, yes, but it makes no difference, "community that is separate/different from ??noun??" |
| Different from + noun |
2 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
6 hrs
Debora Blake
France
France
Native in English
Works in field
France
Audiovisual Translation Specialist
Native in: English , French (Variant: Standard-France)
Works in: French to English, English to French, Italian to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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8
an external aspect
Declined
Let's remember that we sometimes need to move away from the words per se and translate the image and/or meaning. Here's is what I think they're trying to convey:
"The followers of The Church of Almighty God do not consider their community as an external aspect of their lives, rather they feel completely at one with it, that it is an integral part of themselves, that it is their home, not a physical one built with walls, but rather a spiritual one built on faith, because one’s home is not something external, one’s true home is inside one’s heart, and it’s God, faith in God."
"The followers of The Church of Almighty God do not consider their community as an external aspect of their lives, rather they feel completely at one with it, that it is an integral part of themselves, that it is their home, not a physical one built with walls, but rather a spiritual one built on faith, because one’s home is not something external, one’s true home is inside one’s heart, and it’s God, faith in God."
13 days
Stefano Lazzaro
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in Italian
&
English
United Kingdom
English & Italian Mothertongue Linguist
Native in: English , Italian
Works in: English to Italian, Italian to English
Related KudoZ points
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4
a foreign body
a different interpretation: "do not feel their community as a foreign body, but rather one to be 100% part of..."
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