Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

della... anche

English translation:

which even led Austria

Added to glossary by Ivana UK
Nov 23, 2004 15:26
19 yrs ago
Italian term

della... anche

Italian to English Other Government / Politics
Dopo le tensioni degli anni Cinquanta e Sessanta del secolo scorso che avevano spinto l'Austria ** ad investire DELLA questione sudtirolese ANCHE l'Organizzazione delle Nazioni Unite, ** quest'ultima ha infine rilasciato, nel 1992, la cosiddetta "quietanza liberatoria" che ha sancito la fine del contenzioso.

I can't seem to get my head round "della" and "anche" in this context. It just doesn't make sense! Should it be "dalla" instead of "della"? But even then...

* Following the tensions of the 1850s and 1860s which * led Austria and even (?) the United Nations Organisation to invest in "the South Tyrol Question",* the latter finally disclosed in 1992, the so-called "liberatory aquittance", which thus brought to an end the dispute.

Discussion

Vittorio Preite Nov 24, 2004:
Ivana, significa solo quello, l'Austria aveva coinvolto le Nazioni Unite per sbrogliare la faccenda. Non significa nient'altro. Lascia la forma, la grammatica e concentrati su quello che l'autore ti sta dicendo. Ciao.
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
Sara I'm not convinced that it means "even the U.N.". I translated it that way to start with as I was at a complete loss. In my current translation I've omitted the word "even" completely - I can't go wrong that way and it's not strictly necessary to render the meaning across.

Where does everyone else think the "even" should go?
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
Vittorio That's exactly the was I read it and still read it - but it doesn't mean anything in English or Italian (unless it's going right over my head)!! I'm sure the grammar is slightly wrong...
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
CMJ_trans I stand corrected (think I'm still living in the last century!). Thanks for letting me know CMJ - don't think I would have spotted that one!
CMJ_Trans (X) Nov 23, 2004:
isn't this the 1950s and 1960s? Depends when written but from today's perspective last century = 20th
Non-ProZ.com Nov 23, 2004:
Claire Yes - it does make more sense when put like that!

Proposed translations

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which even led Austria

to involve the UN in the South Tyrol question.

Does that make sense?!

ciao

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Note added at 21 hrs 53 mins (2004-11-24 13:19:41 GMT)
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It does mean what I originally said. Basically the situation became so tense they had to involve the UN as well. There are several links telling you the history - here\'s one of them:

http://www.thebestlinks.com/Trentino__MM__South_Tyrol.html

Italy and Austria negotiated an agreement in 1946, put into effect in 1947 when a new Italian constitution was promulgated, that the region would be granted considerable autonomy. German and Italian were both made official languages, and German-language education was permitted once more. However, the implementation of the agreement was not seen as satisfactory by either the German-speaking population or the Austrian government. The issue became the cause of significant friction betwen the two countries and was taken up by the United Nations in 1960. A fresh round of negotiations took place in 1961 but proved unsuccessful, partly because of a campaign of terrorism by German-speaking separatists.

The issue was only resolved in 1971 when a new Italo-Austrian treaty was signed and ratified. It stipulated that disputes in Bolzano province would be submitted for settlement to the International Court of Justice in The Hague, that the province would receive greater autonomy from Italy, and that Austria would not interfere in Bolzano\'s internal affairs.
Peer comment(s):

agree Vittorio Felaco
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agree CMJ_Trans (X)
23 mins
agree Elena Sgarbo (X)
46 mins
agree Sara Castagnoli : but in this order: "which (had) led Austria to involve even the UN..."
1 hr
agree Michele Fauble
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you Claire - you've been a great help!"
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...even the United Nations about...

che avevano spinto l'Austria ** ad investire DELLA questione sudtirolese ANCHE l'Organizzazione delle Nazioni Unite, ** quest'ultima ha infine
which had made Austria involve even the United Nations about the Tirolean question, ..
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tensions pushed Austria into conferring the resolution of the South Tyrol question upon the UN

investire qualcuno di qualcosa > Austria investe anche (persino) l'ONU della questione Sud Tirolese
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